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Hollywood is notorious for its meetings, but even by L.A. standards this one was unusual.
A few steps away from the CTU set of Fox's "24," an unlikely alliance of human rights activists, the dean of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and veteran interrogators with experience stretching from Saigon to Abu Ghraib gathered around two tables in mid-November. The group was there to meet with some of the creative forces behind "24," one of television's most successful serialized dramas, famous for its relentless derring-do depiction of an American counter terrorism unit.
The East Coast crowd didn't fly into town to pitch another quasi-military action series, but rather to advance a simple plea -- Make your torture scenes more authentic.
'24' gets a lesson in torture from the experts
Seeded on Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:00 PM EST
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From 1996 to 2001, there were 102 scenes of torture, according to the Parents Television Council. But from 2002 to 2005, that figured had jumped to 624, they said. "24" has accounted for 67 such scenes during its first five seasons, making it No. 1 in torture depictions, according to the watchdog group.
So 24 has 67 scenes of torture and is only a few episodes into its sixth season...
#1 - Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:00 PM ESTI love the torture scenes, though I have to say that I was disappointed that Jack used the lamp chord to tie his brother's hands - rather than electrocuting him via the nipples.
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67 cases of torture, six seasons of 24...that's more than ten a day...they're torturing someone every two hours.
I think Calvin's right, really the problem isn't too much torture on TV, it's not enough.
I personally would like to see every member of FoxNews's staff tortured regularly. Waterboard them for a few hours and see whether they still think it's not torture. And then there's the whole radio thing. What wouldn't you pay to listen to Howard Stern, say, give Rush Limbaugh the famous New York broomhandle treatment? Make him name his Oxytocin pusher? That by itself would boost satellite radio to the top of the charts.
And why limit it to the anchors? I'd like to see every politician on every current affairs program tortured. The lower their poll ratings, the more voltage through the nipples! I bet you'd see Dubya change his Iran plan in a split heartbeat. And as for old Dick Cheney on Meet The Press - imagine the ratings when you take a quadruple bypass like him and crank a generator up his ass!
Woo hoo! Boy, that is must see TV I tell you what.
Ha Ha, Only Serious.
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#2 - Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:18 PM ESTI think that if we allow torture, the person who authorizes it should be subjected to the exact same treatment for the same time as the victim. Have a double waterboard, with whoever gave the final OK tied on one side, and the interogatee on the other side.
That way, we could be sure that the torture was really necessary, and not being done just for the fun of it.
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By that, they did not mean bloodier or more savage. Instead, they wanted "24" to show torture subjects taking weeks or months to break, spitting out false or unreliable intelligence, and even dying. As they do in the real world.
Wow, a months long torture scene on 24... and they say it's boring now? I suppose it's worth mentioning that Jack's torturing of his brother did lead to unreliable intelligence... and then he died... "As they do in the real world."
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