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Sarah Palin and a Baseball Metaphor

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With John McCain's choice of forty four year old Sarah Palin as his running mate, the Grand Old Party is entering a rebuilding mode, hoping to become a lot more grand, and a little less old. Baseball teams rebuild all the time. A Championship team eventually ages and requires some fresh blood to stay competitive. Some teams like the Pittsburgh Pirates or Kansas City Royals are in a constant state of rebuilding, always looking to next season. But never mind them, they're the Green or Constitution Parties of baseball. The Republicans, now they're the Yankees. And like the Yankees, John McCain and the Republicans are not giving up on this year in the least.

Sure, John McCain could have chosen Mitt Romney (age 61), Tom Ridge (63), Rudy Giuliani (64) or even Mike Huckabee (53) as his running mate. But would they have really helped all that much more? Or are they the Carlos Silvas and Kyle Lohses of politics? Nice candidates, sure, but they just don't present all that much upside, while each features a fatal flaw with the core Republican base. John McCain is not letting go of Roger Clemens at the so-called twilight of his career. And most importantly, none of those potential running mates help in future elections.

Sarah Palin just might.

Sarah Palin has upside. She's a relative unknown, but a strong prospect and a fast riser in the GOP. She excites the base of the Republican Party and lends McCain evangelical street cred. The choice was a surprise and it got people talking, got the McCain campaign media coverage it could only have dreamed of previously.

Besides some nasty rumors, Palin's largest fault so far is that she is Republican. She's pro-life to the core and as religious as they come. But so is the religious right that the McCain campaign wants to court.

Sarah Palin is also a wild-card. She's inexperienced in government, but even more important to the election, she's inexperienced in campaigning, with zero experience on the national stage. Will she wilt under intense media scrutiny? Can she handle a debate against the grey-haired veteranBiden? Or will she surprise the Democrats and the media who are likely to underestimate her? Will she be Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain?

Win or lose this November, Sarah Palin will be a factor in the future. Lose, and she's got a head start for 2012 when the inexperience factor will no longer be an issue. Win, and she's the presumptive nominee in 2016 at only 52.

Gaining a head start on the GOP, the Democrats were able to rebuild in 2006 so they could compete now. They have their young star inBarak Obama. They were able to play it safe and pair him with a grizzled veteran in Joe Biden. For this metaphor, they can be the Boston Red Sox. For the Democrats, the future is now.

However, though Sarah Palin may be being groomed for the future, it does not mean that John McCain cannot compete right now. He needed to call-up some talent from the minors, but anything can happen in the stretch run. SarahPalin just might provide enough youthful excitement to tip the race, she just might unify the evangelical base behind the ticket, she just might play the X factor. Don't count McCain andPalin out yet. It ain't over till it's over.

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{"commentId":2677785,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

I think most would agree that the GOP needs some new blood, but is Sarah Palin the right direction for the party?

As tempted as I am to use sports metaphors for all of my articles covering the RNC, something tells me that MSNBC.com and Calvin might not like it so much, so this will probably be the last of them for now…

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Reply#1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 5:41 AM EDT
{"commentId":2678728,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

Hrm. I could agree that McCain has decided to groom some new blood, but -- the GOP? Is there any indication that this choice was made with the advice of anyone in particular? I don't doubt he was advised to pick a woman -- and I bet those calls were doubled once Obama *did not* pick a woman -- but I keep reading of the secrecy and that only a few people knew of this pick.

So, yeah - I think they need some new blood, and I think she's a young rising star, but I'm not seeing her as much beyond a short term media boost. I think she'll eventually sink the ship, once the scrutiny kicks in. People keep saying that she'll have to be treated with kid's gloves but -- if we're talking about equality here, why?

I agree with most who say that she needs to be allowed to open her mouth before going after her too hard.

On experience, I think the *only* option is to go after McCain for choosing someone with less experience than Obama, after going after Obama for *not* having experience. All of the "but she has more executive experience" talk isn't going to play for the vast majority of voters who won't see why it matters, based on her limited time in office and her lack of other qualifications. (Beauty queen? Mom of 5? Closer to Russia than some other people? Those aren't qualifications that should be stated with any seriousness.)

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  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
{"commentId":2678930,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

Palin's future is senator of her state.

Frankly, I think she is the wrong direction for the party. If you have not read it yet, read "The Grand New Party". It is very good and outlines a direction for the party that will likely force the Democrats into emergency mode.

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  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679218,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

but -- the GOP? Is there any indication that this choice was made with the advice of anyone in particular?

I don't have any inside information that you don't, but I would have guessed the opposite of you, that he advised to pick young, and the picking a woman was of his own choice. But that's just a guess. And besides, I needed to keep the theme going ;-)

On experience, I think the *only* option is to go after McCain for choosing someone with less experience than Obama, after going after Obama for *not* having experience.

I do find it interesting that each candidate basically chose his competitor as a running mate, identity politics-wise. Obama chose the old Washington veteran grey-haired white guy as his running mate, which makes it much harder to challenge McCain on his age, and dilutes his message of change, while McCain chose the younger, inexperienced, woman from Alaska, which as you said nullifies his experience argument against Obama.

Frankly, I think she is the wrong direction for the party.

You and me both, but I get to cover Ron Paul and his Rally for the Republic on Tuesday ;-)

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#1.3 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
{"commentId":2681044,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}

Bad choice for McCain if he was trying to court women voters. It's likely Palin will bring SOME voters, but alienate far more than she brings.

Early polls indicate the addition of Palin is seen as negative by the majority of women voters, who view it as pandering.

I have a different metaphor here, that I used in another article.

'John McCain passed over all the suitable female Republican candidates like bad heads of lettuce at Safeway...'

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  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":2681927,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

Robert, that's a pretty good metaphor there ;-)

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  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":2682176,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Keep up the sports metaphors, Adam. Yours is the best article to appear so far out of all of the ones posted from either convention. Gov. Palin, with her modest background and reformist credentials, is exactly what the GOP needs longterm vis-a-vis Sam's Club Republicans to remain competitive in a shifting demographic that for now favors Democrats.

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  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":2690572,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}

My baseball metaphor for Palin is a little too obvious.

'Strike three! You're OUT.'

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  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 2:57 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2677861,"authorDomain":"200MilesUp"}

I just don't see how she's the right direction. She's got to be one of the most right-wing people in US politics. As right-wing as right-wing can be. She's just another Tom DeLay. I just can't see how someone so right-wing can change the electoral dynamics in any fundamental ways.

She might re-energise her base, but it's a shrinking base, and she has no new issues.

Though I have to say it will be "down to her performances" to use a sports metaphor. For her to be a "game-changer", she has to make a real and not a symbolic impact.

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Reply#2 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 6:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679273,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

I just don't see how she's the right direction.

John McCain's had two choices practically his whole campaign, he could have reached to the center to attract new voters, independents and conservative Democrats or he could have slanted right to solidify the base. He's been pretty consistent in heading right, even now during the general election when the goal is usually to slant back center. I'm not sure if it's the right move. Yea, he prevents Obama from sneaking away with a win in a state like Georgia, but it also means that McCain has a much tougher chance in battleground states like PA and OH, which are both slanting Obama right now.

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  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 11:25 AM EDT
{"commentId":2682230,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Adam, the brilliance of the Palin move is that she has appeal both for the base and to conservative independent women voters and Reagan Democrat women voters both of whom began to defect from the GOP in '04 and in '06 in larger numbers. Dean and Co. made a big noise by running conservative Democrats in '06 in swing and red states -- the so-called Blue Dogs (dogs that have since been chained and muzzled by Dogcatcher Pelosi). Palin can fight quite well on that turf.

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  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2678058,"authorDomain":"azsky13"}

hey Adam... Welcome to Minnesota!

I like the sports metaphor. If it works, use it! I hadn't really thiught if it in that way, but I think you may be on to something. I actually hadn't given it much thought and looked at the choice as just an effort to grab Hillary's supporters, but that didn't really make sense cosidering her pro-life stance, this does...

Mary

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Reply#3 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 7:55 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679316,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

Thanks for the welcome. I think the woman thing has been a bit overblown, especially in conjunction with stealing Hillary Clinton supporters. Believe it or not, but there were actually a handful of more experienced female GOP potential running mates, and yet McCain choose Palin. The main other reason for McCain to have chosen Palin, is as both Brian and Oluseye have pointed out, she's about as right wing as you can get. McCain could be using the Rove strategy of getting out the evangelical vote, rather than attempting to convert independents and the like.

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  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 11:29 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2678258,"authorDomain":"danny-soapbox"}

Sarah Palin is really arch-conservative former Sen. Rick Santorum ... with Breasts.

Look for the hot young fireballer to come up strong at first, with pitches no one on the Dem's team has seen (oddly enough, EXCEPT for Obama--batting against Hillary he got to see a lot of the rookie's stuff...he's already looped a double off her by basically ignoring her presence)....

You'll see lots of strikeouts early...but when she faces them a second time, however....she, like all rookies...is gonna get lit up and taken yard.

She'll throw her arm out trying to compensate...and while quite possibly a prospect for the future...she'll be on the 15 day DL come mid-October...with major offseason surgery awaiting her.

My worry is the rallying of the entire organization--from the Bigs in the Show through the grapefruit leagues--fundamentalist evangelical Christians who will vote God and hard-line religious doctrine before voting country--reveals that the whole "American League" to be a little more LIKE our enemies than anyone cares to discuss.

Regardless, It's gonna be a great ballgame...pray that the best team wins this one.

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Reply#4 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 8:43 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679328,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

Sarah Palin is really arch-conservative former Sen. Rick Santorum ... with Breasts.

Between that line and the rest of your comment perfectly continuing the baseball metaphors, you win comment of the day, and it's still only morning.

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  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
{"commentId":2680388,"authorDomain":"danny-soapbox"}

Much appreciated...living in Pittsburgh, it's easy to "get behind" bad baseball cliche's...

Have a great labor day!

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  • 1 vote
#4.2 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":2690817,"authorDomain":"adventurebooks"}

Cartoon I did recently shows Palin on stage addressing a womens' group:

'I favor a return to traditional values for women, just like the old days. Such as sneaking proudly down back alleys if you need an abortion...'

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#4.3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2678325,"authorDomain":"MomaJ"}

Oops sorry, I didn't realize this was just for the Hating Dems.
You go..... but you will loose.

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Reply#5 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
{"commentId":2678961,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

You think Adam is a Democrat?

Adam, you Progressive you :-)

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#5.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2678328,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

Goreporter reincarnated! Those who fail to remember will be sorry. A prime example of why no publication should be deleted once exposed to public view.

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Reply#6 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
{"commentId":2678964,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

Adam is much more intelligent and logical than GoReporter was.

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#6.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:39 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2678795,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}

Adam - Liked the article, and look forward to more!

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Reply#7 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:16 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679531,"authorDomain":"trishmel"}

Palin represents the fundie end of the Party that has the most extreme views out of step with America. Abortion being outlawed in cases of rape, incest, or a dying mother are extremist views. She has already lied to the public claiming that she always rejected the bridge to nowhere when the record shows she favored it. She is under an ethics cloud right now and apparently used strong arm tactic as mayor as well.

Yesterday on MTP, David Gregory thought it was very cool that she was feisty enough to get on a plane for a long flight after her water broke. It was dangerous, selfish and showed very poor judgement, and also showed that David Gregory is an immature idiot. His gaffes and performance on MSNBC baffle me why this guy gets so much air time.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#8 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
{"commentId":2679664,"authorDomain":"greenguy"}

Adam, I'm trying to use Cal Ripken metaphorically but I haven't found the connection yet. I do think there's something lame about being remembered simply for not being injured and always being around, as opposed to having a good ERA, for example. John McCain? Joe Biden?

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Reply#9 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
{"commentId":2682037,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

Yea, but I think that's disrespectful to Cal Ripken. He was a damn good player in his own right, and started the whole trend of offensively focused shortstops that led to A-Rod, Jeter, Nomar and Tejada.

Of course, back in the day McCain was "the Maverick" and all of that…

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  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2683839,"authorDomain":"timmmahhhh"}

The Yankees is a good metaphor for the GOP - either you've loved them forever, or you despise them. Or now that they're losing you may not root for them so much anymore.

Pittsburgh Dan's comment about Palin being Santorum with breasts would normally be considered tasteless but it could not be more obvious that that is why she is the VP candidate - it is McCain that created this image. Most of the Hillary supposters are smart enough to know this and are insulted that just because she is a woman doesn't mean she will support traditional women's issues, kind of in the same way Clarence Thomas bunts on black issues (unless you count, in his critics' words, uppity black issues).

And let's not forget the unwilling team member that started the GOP downfall - when they drafted Terry Schivo as their patron saint of trying to ram their pseudo-morality down our throats.

Add more flowery language, a few more metaphors, and a more conservative tone and we might think you're George Will. :)

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Reply#10 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":2684894,"authorDomain":"danny-soapbox"}

Thanks for not trashing the "Santorum" comment--you saw it for what it was meant to convey. (And I live in the senatorial district that told Santorum to hit the showers...I know a lot about the guy..it was an easy comparison-GO TEAM PITTSBURGH!).

George Will, eh? I stand complimented...and subtly disturbed.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
{"commentId":2685664,"authorDomain":"ep-foster"}

I'm glad that McCain picked Palin and that she seems to have the willingness to stand up for the rights for those she represents. That's a characteristic that I look for in a candidate and it is important one. Obama gives great speech but I've always felt that he was trying too hard to portray himself as someone who actually cares about the American people as a whole.

I'm glad to finally have an exciting election year..and it's looking like it's getting better all the time!

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  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2686715,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

You like that she fired a cabinet member because he would not fire her former Brother-in-Law due to his divorce from her sister?

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  • 2 votes
#12.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":2692655,"authorDomain":"jhall22"}

She is under investigation for firing a cabinet member. You might want to remember that rumors aren't facts and repeating something over and over and over again doesn't make it so. Just like those rumors about her son turned out to be total lies being broadcast from the liberal bloggers.

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#12.2 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
{"commentId":2697177,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

It is not a rumor. She did fire the cabinet member. Maybe we should ask him what happened.

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    #12.3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2697229,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

    turned out to be lies? Apparently Alaskan's had been thinking that for a while. Why else would a pregnant woman not be in a hurry to give birth after the water breaks, opening up a high risk pregnancy to a huge risk of a fatal infection for the baby or mother?

    She was either not pregnant, stupid, negligent, or wanted the baby to die (then it would not be an abortion, kind of like my wife's aunt praying for her daughter to have a miscariage)

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      #12.4 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2686181,"authorDomain":"pintohts"}

      Women do not vote on a single issue. Roe vs. Wade has been a mantra that the DNC has used to scare women to stay with them. That is why they stated after HRC lost, "Where else are they going to go?" Roe vs Wade is safe because it will just be thrown back to the states. Therefore, Palin stands an excellent chance of getting support from the Reagon Democrats and Catholics in all those swing states. Remember her extreme pro-life stance is better than Obama's extreme pro-choice stance that calls a baby born alive from a botched late term abortion "medical waste."

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      Reply#13 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2686873,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

      That is a bunch of garbage. He does nto call it Medical waste. Maybe you should do more than listen to some joker with a Mic.

      Here

      On top of that, he voted "present", not "No" regarding the Illinoise law that would protect accidental birth during an Abortion because

      ...technical language that might have interfered with a woman's right to choose and because Illinois law already required medical care in such situations

      No where is it that he supports the acts that you describe. He simply opposed a bill because he did not like the language used which could have lead to problems for Women who wanted to have an abortion.

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      #13.1 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2692695,"authorDomain":"jhall22"}

      And "Present" is such a strong statement of your beliefs, isn't it.

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      #13.2 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2697379,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

      it is not a statement at all, which is the POINT! he said why he did not vote for it, but he refused to vote against it because he supports the premis that the bill stood for. He also knew there was not a rush for this law because it simply affirmed in more direct verbage what the state laws already said through the courts, if a Baby is born during an Abortion, it is entitled to medical care that any baby would recieve if he/she was in distress at birth.

      the state laws already amounted to those protections and courts affirmed such actions must take place, the bill was meant to make it explicet.

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        #13.3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2687087,"authorDomain":"rufamily"}

        My oh my....The Dem's can have a lady run for pres. but the repubs can't have a lady for VP.
        and the Dem's yell pandering?????
        The Dem's are hip, hip, hurray for a man with 146 days in office, then announced his candidacy for president and then stole the nomination from Hillary.
        Didn't Hillary have the popular vote until the "newses" reported the "super delegates" (who trump the popular vote in the Dem party) reneged their pledge and went to Obama.
        Please...leave "teats" have NO place in this conversation....

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          Reply#14 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2689718,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

          I hope you feel safe and warm in that fantasy you have wrapped your self in.

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          #14.1 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":2687143,"authorDomain":"rufamily"}

          hey...Behind my screen

          It was Obamas bill per clinton news network..
          A "present' is a I don't care vote...neither yes or no..
          and it was the second time the bill came up...

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            Reply#15 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2689724,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

            And you point? How does what you just said impact what I said?

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            #15.1 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
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            {"commentId":2687386,"authorDomain":"Brainysmurf"}

            Her biggest weakness is she is a hypocrite. She said she cleaned up Alaska, but is under investigation for an unethical firing of an ex brother in law. Her views on sex eds seem to have failed with her daughter being a glaring example to her and she wants to take Polar Bears off the endangered species list and uglify (if thats a word) her beautiful state in which she personally hikes, hunts, and explores by giving it to Oil Barons (including her husband,who ironcially, works for an oil company).

            If republicans realy want to win, they need the old John McCain. Bush has pretty much messed it up for the conservative movement.

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            Reply#16 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2687628,"authorDomain":"rexk"}

            No offense, but there is nothing more trite than threadbare sports analogies. Such sports related riffs seem to be, primarily, the domain of Republicans. I am truly not trying to be snarky, but please try to inject something fresh into your commentary, then maybe you can hit a home run, a touchdown, a strike or a... well, you get the idea.

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              Reply#17 - Mon Sep 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2695691,"authorDomain":"mainlente"}

              Continuing your baseball metaphor, Sarah Palin is not ready for the Big Leagues. This relative rookie needs to spend more time in the minors. With only a BA in journalism and her slim credentials in political office, this is not the person you want one heartbeat away from the presidency. In fact, I think that's irresponsible of McCain and the Republican Party to put our nation at risk this way. In Palin's selection, I think Maverick McCain thought he was shooting from the hip, but instead he shot himself in the foot.

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                Reply#18 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 12:13 PM EDT
                {"commentId":2708980,"authorDomain":"the-pitytorium"}

                I find your baseball extended conceptual metaphor to be incredibly troubling.

                When teams are entering "rebuilding" that implies they are expecting to lose for a while, in order to have a better shot at winning later. "Rebuilding", is a word used to prepare a fan base for a losing season. After a "losing season", the national record doesn't magically reset itself to 0 - 0, those defeats and their effects linger.

                The country needs fixin' now, I haven't seen a platform which disagrees with that assessment yet. (Except for on xkcd.) So if the Republicans are content with using 2008 to "rebuild", then they are 1) letting down the vast majority of their members, who expect them to be competitive in this race (look at the attacks on Obama and just try to argue that they aren't heartfelt as evidence), and gave them time and money to that effect; 2) accepting that even though they argue a Democratic win would be disastrous, by failing to field the best possible candidates now they are willing to risk the best interests of the country today to preserve the long term viability of their brand; and 3) preemptively admitting defeat---no team "rebuilds" that is already competitive!.

                I doubt you'll hear a single GOPer ever utter the word "rebuilding". Certainly not anybody trained by Rove. Definitely not the way to conceptually frame it.

                Its hilarious that both sides have picked running mates which essentially neuter their best avenues of attack on their opponent. (Although I don't expect it to actually stop them from shooting.) Does keep the race interesting reading, though.

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                  Reply#19 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2803652,"authorDomain":"jameia04"}

                  I believe that john McCain definitely made the wrong choice in choosing Sarah Palin as his presumptive vice president. He doesn't believe that she was the best candidate for the job. He had other motives besides choosing someone with experience and qualifications who can do the job right. First of all, since Obama didn't choose Hilary Clinton as his vice president, I believe that McCain wanted to manipulate the women of America into voting for him because he had a woman on his team. What he didn't take into consideration is that many women were not supporting Hilary because she was a woman; they were supporting her because she was the woman. She was the woman with strong, ideas, opinions and ways to improve the country. They supported Hilary because they supported her views and believed that she would be a good president and lead the country in the right direction. They supported her not just because she has the same gender but because they agreed with her views on subject matters dealing with the welfare and leadership of the United States. Personally, I find it truly insulting that McCain chose this woman to become our possible vice president just because of her gender. We know nothing about this lady except that she is a relatively young woman who is a senator in Alaska. She basically came out of no where. No one knew her then......BAM....she could possibly be our new vice president for at least four years. Four years is a long time for someone to lead the country being voted in solely on the basis of gender? She has no experience and with all the problems the United States is enduring lately especially the war in Iraq, I hardly think this is the time for her to learn to take charge of our country. I still don't even no much about her except that she has a husband and children. Sadly enough her youngest child was born with Down syndrome. These types of children need as well as deserve lots of love, care and attention. She knew that her child would be mentally disabled when he was first conceived and she still wanted to have the baby. Although I don't think anything is wrong with her decision to keep the baby because all children are a blessing from god and should be loved and cherished, the child could have potential detrimental and maybe fatal health problems which will require most if not all of her attention. Our country can't afford for our vice president to take frequent time off. This is the secondary chief of command in our country. If McCain becomes president and god forbid something happens to him, she will become first in command and if her child is sick of course her motherly instincts will kick in and the child will become first priority. What will happen to the United States? Who will lead us then? Secondly, McCain knew that although she wasn't the best for the job, his decision would definitely make national headlines and attract much more media attention for himself which therefore would increase his chances of winning the election. This decision certainly made everyone inquisitive as to who this woman is? Where did she come from? What are her ideals? What can she contribute to the future of the United States? And of course the media was all over this story. I think that McCain is extremely wise but also very manipulative and conniving but I guess he figures as well as others....I gotta do what I gotta do to get ahead and ultimately achieve my goal.

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                    Reply#20 - Sun Sep 7, 2008 3:00 AM EDT
                    {"commentId":2805409,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

                    They are called Paragraphs. Please use them, it make reading your comment much easier.

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                      #20.1 - Sun Sep 7, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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                      {"commentId":2840299,"authorDomain":"Billy-Ball"}

                      Let's hope that Palin is like many hot prospects who find that they are unable to hit the curveball from major league pitchers and quickly disappear.

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                        Reply#21 - Tue Sep 9, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
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